The A Kōrero with… blog series is back for 2026! This time, DEGANZ’s Izzi spoke with Music Supervisor Aminé Ramer to hear all the ways music plays its part in screen productions.

An award-winning music supervisor and consultant, Aminé has helped define the sound and emotional tone of feature films, documentaries, and television series. Her work is driven by a strong sensibility for connecting sight and sound to create a visceral audience experience, along with deep expertise in music rights and the complexities of the clearance process. Her credits span numerous international productions, including the Academy Award–nominated and Peabody Award–winning documentary Crip Camp, and the Apple TV+ drama series Shantaram. She has also contributed to a range of Aotearoa screen projects, including recent features Tinā; The Rule of Jenny Pen; Big Girls Don’t Cry; Red, White & Brass; and Baby Done.

In this kōrero, Aimné shares how she has one foot in the screen world and one in the music world, her secret to keeping track of thousands of songs, and her favourite part of her job.


Izzi: What is a music supervisor’s role on a project? 

Aminé: The music supervisor is the head of the music department. We oversee everything music-related on a project and work creatively with the director to help facilitate the project’s musical vision. 

Ideally, we’re brought in before shooting begins, so we help shape the tone, present musical options, find the right composer, and make sure the music budget aligns with the project’s creative expectations.

Izzi: In fairly simple terms, what does your workflow look like?

Aminé: The workflow starts with reading the script and creating a document to track anytime music is mentioned. I also add ideas if the script doesn’t specifically mention anything. Like if a scene is set in a shop, I’d add a note that the shop could have music playing in the background. So I make sure to account for all the music possibilities based on the script.

Then I’ll talk with the director about their creative vision and with the producer about the budget to make sure that the creative expectations and budget are aligned. After that, I start gathering ideas for songs and potential composers. If there are specific songs in the script, I’ll get quotes to see whether we can get approval and how much it’ll cost.

There may also be some practical stuff. Like if the script says, ‘Michael sings to his beloved as they’re sitting on the farm,’ I need to figure out what the song is, if the actor can sing, if they need a vocal coach, if there will be a backing track, and how the song will be recorded. So, I’m coordinating with the sound person, the first AD, and the director about all of that.

Once filming wraps, I’ll have conversations with the editor and hopefully prevent any random temp tracks from being used. Ideally, the composer can send through temp music options.

I’ll also present music options that fit creatively and the budget. That way, the editor isn’t spending hours cutting to the perfect song that we can’t afford or clear. Even if I only send five options through, I may have gone through 500 tracks to get there.

A large part of my job is making sure communication channels are open, especially in post-production when things move much faster. I’m seeing footage, working with the composer, looking through hundreds of songs, sending emails, checking prices, and discussing whether scenes work better with a pre-existing song or something original. The director ultimately calls the shot, but everyone’s talking through the options.

There are a lot of moving parts, but it keeps me on my toes.

Aminé with Christopher Peterson and Adam Dorn (aka Mocean Worker) at the Tribeca Film Festival in New York / Photo provided

Izzi: How do you go about getting the costs and rights for songs?

Aminé: I use a platform called Disco, which means I’m regularly sent music from major labels, publishers, and managers, complete with metadata attached to each track. So a lot of the information I need is already there.

If I don’t have that information, or if there’s something very specific written into the script, then I’ll go to APRA or Recorded Music NZ to find out who owns the master rights.

Every good music supervisor has strong contacts across labels, publishers, and independent managers. I spend a lot of time listening to music, going to shows, and building relationships within the music community. That means I sometimes hear music before it’s released, or I can call a manager directly and inquire about a song for a project.

Izzi: What’s your creative process in the role?

Aminé: The creative process is the whole reason I do the job. It’s my favourite part.

My creative process begins after reading the script and discussing tone with the director and producers. We’ll talk about whether they’re open to counterpoint. For example, instead of playing a scene straight with a love song, maybe there’s something more unexpected that works better emotionally.

From there, I start figuring out what options I want to present. Sometimes that means getting the exact song they’ve written into the script, but I’ll also prepare alternatives in case it doesn’t fit the budget, or even suggestions that might work better creatively than the original reference.

That’s the part I really love — matching music to visuals. I often have access to unreleased music, emerging artists, or older tracks that aren’t as widely known, and it’s exciting to find the perfect fit for a scene. It’s quite an intuitive process.

Izzi: How do you keep track of all of your music knowledge? Is it like a massive Rolodex in your brain?

Aminé: I start with instinct, thinking about what might feel right for the scene. I’ll make playlists of songs that immediately come to mind, but I also keep a huge library of playlists organised by emotion or tone, like happy, sad, driving, or counterpoint.

I’ll go through those first, and if nothing feels right, then I’ll reach out to labels, publishers, or managers with specific requests. They’ll send back options they think fit the brief, and often listening through those will send me down another creative rabbit hole.

I also keep a long-running wish list of songs I love that could work for certain types of scenes. Because I’m constantly listening to music, I’ll often hear something and save it for later.

But sometimes things change when you actually see the footage. The pace or edit can completely shift what the music needs to do. A song that worked on the page suddenly feels wrong, or the scene needs a totally different energy. Sometimes I’ll play a scene back and immediately know the perfect track. Other times, I’ll go through hundreds of songs against the picture before finding the right one. But finding out what doesn’t work is just as valuable as finding out what does.

And honestly, I love that process too.

The best feeling is watching a finished scene and knowing the music helped elevate it emotionally. That’s why working closely with the editor and director is so important. Music supervision isn’t just about finding a song or getting a clearance quote; it’s about shaping how the music actually functions emotionally within the scene.

Clearances are also part of the job, but they’re only one part of it.

Aminé with fellow music supervisor Evyen Klean at the 9th annual Guild of Music Supervisors Awards / Photo provided

Izzi: Can you speak more to how you balance the creative and admin aspects of music supervision?

Aminé: The difference between being a music supervisor and just doing clearances is huge. If the role were only clearances, I don’t think I’d do it as a job, because what I really love is the creative side and the music itself.

That said, to be good creatively, you also have to be excellent at clearances. There’s no point pitching what you think is the perfect song to a director, only to later discover there’s an uncleared sample in it or that it’s completely out of budget. At that point, you’ve wasted everyone’s time.

So you really need to be strong at both sides of the job. 

I tend to separate them mentally. Some days are creative — listening, searching, matching music to scenes — and other days are admin-focused — dealing with quote requests, negotiations, pricing, and rights clearances.

It genuinely feels like using two different parts of your brain.

Izzi: You’ve mentioned that you work closely with the director and editor, as well as keeping the producer in the loop. I’m curious about the specific working relationship with the composer.

Aminé: It’s really important that everyone is closely aligned. 

You don’t want the composer going off and writing something that ends up competing with a song or vice versa. I’ve spent hours looking for the perfect track only to find out the composer is already covering that moment. Or the composer has spent days on a cue only to find out the director wanted a song. So communication is key between all the key creatives.

A big part of the process is deciding whether a scene should use a pre-existing track or an original score. That’s what happens in spotting sessions.

Once there’s a rough cut, the director, composer, and music supervisor should all sit down together and watch the film to make notes. I’ll be noting where I think music can come in, the composer is marking where the score should come on, and the director is shaping the overall vision. Then we compare notes, discuss ideas, and map out who is doing what.

At that stage, anything from the script or early temp work might still be in the cut, and that can be really useful. Sometimes it confirms what’s working and we move forward with it, and other times it becomes clear we need to change direction completely.

Spotting sessions are really about making sure everyone is on the same page before post-production moves forward. The director ultimately makes the final decisions, but the composer and music supervisor are working closely together throughout the process, so the creative and practical sides stay aligned.

Aminé in Venice, where she lives for part of the year / Photo provided

Izzi: What’s something you wish collaborators knew when working with a Music Supervisor?

Aminé: A lot of it comes down to seeing the music supervisor as an integral part of the creative team.

With collaborators I’ve worked with for a long time, that understanding is already there, and things run smoothly. But when starting with someone new, they may not realise how different my role is compared to someone who just handles clearances.

Also, people often don’t see the amount of work involved. It’s long days, multiple conversations with rights holders, and the fact that only one song will ultimately be chosen while several others are cleared and then not used. I sometimes wish I could fully communicate the scale of that work, but part of my job is to manage it quietly and keep the process moving so the production isn’t overwhelmed by it.

The role is all-encompassing. As a key part of the music department, we’re involved in the creative process, not just getting prices. We have a wealth of musical knowledge and experience that we bring to the table to help facilitate the filmmaker’s vision. Ultimately, we’re there to make the work the best it can be.


This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

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So… Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Paul Goldsmith (Minister for Public Service; Digitising Government; Arts, Culture and Heritage; Media and Communications) got together and announced that the government is embarking on a fundamental overhaul of the public service to improve services, lift productivity and deliver better value for money.

Government departments will be merged, public service staffing will be reduced from 1.2% of the population to 1% over time, at a loss of an estimated 9000 jobs.

What does that mean for us, you might wonder?

If you look at Goldsmith’s Amplify: A Creative and Cultural Strategy for New Zealand, which I’ve written about previously, you can see similar themes emerge, the predominant ones of which are:

More bangs for the buck.

And:

There ain’t no more money, honey.

Taking both into account, I’m going to moot some possible outcomes should National get back into power with its Wegovy-like approach to the public service.

The Mergers
NZFC and NZ on Air will merge. Just like government departments, the Nats will look to a single streamlined screen funding body with fewer people doing more work, but without more funding. In fact, probably less. NZFC was gearing up for the merger for quite a while, with a fair bit of jockeying to ensure they came out on top. This shotgun marriage is an inevitability no matter who gets into power, so we’ll just have to live with it.

The TVNZ/RNZ merger won’t come back. The two are such incompatible partners with different kaupapa. I just can’t see their colours being changed for them.

Commercial Imperatives for Screen
‘Art for art’s sake’ is not a National catch cry. So what is seen as a better return on investment?:

  • More commercial fare
  • Export-driven content
  • More private sector investment
  • Continued international service production

This isn’t all bad, but in the auteur film space, only A-list and top genre-specific festival success will suffice, or you’re going to need to pull box office. In regard to export product, if we don’t get more funding and better conditions to create our own IP, we’re just going to meander along like we always have, with the occasional hit to keep us juiced. Games will ultimately outstrip traditional screen and prove an easier draw for funding under this government—it’s scalable. Private sector money will remain mostly a philanthropic exercise without greater investment incentives. Someone should take a look at the Belgian Tax Shelter or the Luxembourg Audiovisual Support System for possible solutions. Governments love invisible exports, and international screen production here delivers it. It ain’t going anywhere. The broader arts eco-system, however, is going to suffer.

Next week, Nicola Willis will deliver Budget 2026, which will shed more light (or throw more shadow) on the future of Screen. Thankfully, we are seen in government circles as an export industry as well as part of the cultural sector. This could well be our saving grace.

 

Tui Ruwhiu
Executive Director

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It’s election year.

We need to examine what each of the main parties’ views are on the Screen industry, Arts, Culture and Heritage, as well as what they are going to do for society and the economy. Here’s a first cursory look from a screen perspective.

To date, NATIONAL has shown its hand. Funding cuts for Screen and Arts. Maintenance of the New Zealand Screen Production Rebate NZSPR International. The NZSPR Domestic is currently under review. As is the possibility of a levy on streamers. No Arts policy on the website. It doesn’t seem to fit in “Fixing the Basics” and “Building the Future”. I’d have to admit to being pleasantly surprised by MCH Minister Paul Goldsmith. When he took over from Melissa Lee, I thought, “Here we go…not.” Goldsmith, it turns out, is willing to listen, learn, and it seems to do what he can for Arts and Screen while sitting in a party that’s not showing a whole lot of interest in us.

LABOUR is pretty much bereft of policy at this point. Intentionally, they kept telling us. And it’s supposedly working for them if you look at the polls. Reuben Davidson, Labour’s Media and Communications spokesperson, is in on the streamer levy if they get back into power, though. We’ll just have to wait to learn what else they have to offer. Labour has, as we know, always been a strong supporter of Screen and the Arts. And in Davidson and the Arts, Culture and Heritage spokesperson Rachel Boyack, we have two keen supporters.

ACT would do away with the NZSPR altogether if they had their way. Nothing in the way of policy on Arts on their website, which pretty much tells us all we need to know.

The GREENS are speaking our language with a full Arts, Culture and Heritage Policy on their website here. Nuff said.

TE PĀTI MĀORI tells us: “Hang tight! We’re working on our policies and will be back soon.” Don’t expect a huge amount of attention from this direction for screen in general, though. Past policy has been primarily focused on Māori Arts, Culture and Heritage, as you would expect from a Māori party.

Over at the OPPORTUNITY PARTY, former Labour Party Minister Iain Lees-Galloway is General Manager for the fifth leader there in 10 years, Quilae Wong. Their focus is the environment and business, mainly, it seems. Nothing to say on their website about the Arts at this point. A ‘wait and see’ here.

I forgot about Winnie… a late addition here. Go to the NEW ZEALAND FIRST website and the latest policy they’ve got there is for 2023. They obviously think they’re such a shoo-in they don’t have to worry. If we go back in time to their ’23 manifesto, Media gets a reasonable amount of attention but not the Arts. Jenny Marcroft, a former broadcaster, is Parliamentary Under-Secretary to the Minister for Media and Communications and NZ First spokesperson for Arts, Culture and Heritage. I don’t recollect Marcroft speaking on anything about the Arts, which possibly says a lot… about NZ First, or my memory.

In the next few months, there will be chances to hear more from all the parties on the policies that affect our industry. There is always at least one screen-focused evening with party reps in the lead-up to election day. If you can’t make it along, check party websites for policy releases and updates.

AND VOTE!

Make your voice heard.

 

Tui Ruwhiu
Executive Director

Jonno Woodford-Robinson’s career as an editor is a testament to versatility, rhythm, and a deep understanding of storytelling across genres. From blockbuster VFX spectacles to intimate indie dramas and documentaries, his work combines technical precision with a strong creative sensibility.

Born in Waihōpai Invercargill, Jonno grew up in a household where creativity was highly valued. His English father was a sculptor and art teacher, while his Irish mother taught high school English. Music became Jonno’s first creative language as he was an avid pianist and drummer, playing in his high school band and spending countless hours in the music room. This early grounding in rhythm would later shape his approach to editing, beginning with his first project at 17: a music video for his band.

After a formative summer working at a local radio station, Jonno moved to Ōtautahi Christchurch to study radio and television broadcasting, focusing on drama editing. He later relocated to Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, where he began working in post-production, editing commercials, short films, and the occasional music video.

A pivotal moment in Jonno’s career came when he met Oscar-nominated editor Michael Horton. Working alongside Horton, Jonno operated Lightworks and Avid systems, developing both his story editing and technical skills. This mentorship came full circle years later when they co-edited Lee Tamahori’s acclaimed drama, Mahana (2016). Together, they won Best Editor at the 2017 New Zealand Film Awards.

Jonno’s feature film career began with the cult classic Tongan Ninja (2002), quickly followed by a series of diverse projects. These included the psychological drama Fracture (2004), the groundbreaking Rotuman film Pear ta Ma ‘on Maf (The Land Has Eyes) (2004), and Taika Waititi’s debut Eagle vs Shark (2007), both of which premiered at the Sundance Film Festival. His work on the short film Closer (2004), which screened in competition at Cannes, demonstrated his sensitivity to character-driven storytelling, earning multiple accolades at the New Zealand Screen Awards.

Alongside his editorial work,  Jonno developed an extensive VFX skill set while working for Wētā Digital’s (now Wētā FX) motion capture department in 2005 and 2006. His proficiency with Avid Media Composer and DaVinci Resolve Fusion has enabled him to seamlessly bridge traditional editing with VFX-heavy workflows, making him a sought-after collaborator on complex productions.

Throughout his career, Jonno has contributed to a remarkable range of high-profile productions. His credits include Mortal Engines (2018), The Rehearsal (2016), What We Do in the Shadows (2014), and Pork Pie (2017). He was an additional editor on Jared Hess’s box office hit A Minecraft Movie (2025) and Peter Jackson’s King Kong (2005), and part of the editorial team for The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) and The Return of the King (2003).

In television, Jonno’s work is equally distinguished. His credits span international and local productions, including Mr. Corman (2021), Cleverman (2016-2017), and One Lane Bridge (2020). Notably, he served as lead editor on the Emmy-nominated series Time Bandits (2024), a fantasy adventure that blended improvisation with complex visual effects, an ideal match for Jonno’s hybrid skill set.

Beyond narrative, Jonno has made significant contributions to documentary storytelling. He edited and associate-produced Peter Young’s The Last Ocean (2012), a powerful environmental documentary advocating for the protection of the Ross Sea. The film screened at international festivals, won multiple awards, and played a role in the establishment of the world’s largest marine protected area.

His documentary work also demonstrates a strong ability to integrate archival material with contemporary footage, notably in Dame Gaylene Preston’s mini-series on the 2010 Christchurch earthquake, Hope and Wire (2014), and Tom Scott’s tele-feature dramatisation of the protests against the 1981 Springbok tour, Rage (2011).

Most recently, Jonno edited Chelsie Preston Crayford’s debut feature, Caterpillar (2026), a drama exploring the dynamics of three generations of women facing a life-changing event, continuing his focus on character-driven storytelling.

In addition to his vast career in post-production, Jonno has been a longtime supporter of DEGANZ and is committed to helping usher in the next generation of editors. He has been a mentor to many, taking on various editor attachments over the years. He was also a key player in the establishment of the Aotearoa New Zealand Screen Editors (ANZSE) Accreditation. He is currently serving on the ANZSE committee, helping to evaluate the next round of Accreditations.

Based in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Jonno lives with his wife Rieko, an artist, surrounded by inquisitive wild birds and a wide selection of teas.

 

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Petrol and diesel are inescapable costs for production.

It doesn’t matter if it’s a two-person crew with a director, or a 3-500 crew on an international show; they all need fuel, particularly diesel.

Gaffer, grip, and unit trucks, four wheel drives, SUVs, vans, personal cars—all those production vehicles clock up the mileage, and the IRD rate of approximately $1.20 isn’t cutting it any more.

I just filled up my 4WD, and it was $3.99 a litre for diesel.

Productions, whether in planning, prep, or underway, will be looking sideways at their contingency and overhead and at ways to cut costs. And of course, thought will turn to cast and crew rates and how to squeeze them.

Collectively negotiated agreements under the Screen Industry Workers Act, should we achieve them, will provide some protection for cast and crew in this case, and any other. Production will not be able to go below the base negotiated rate, preventing the worst cases of exploitation. So the old chestnut of: “If you won’t accept this terrible offer, we’ll find someone else,” will be harder to pull off, because the occupational negotiated base rate will apply to everybody. In other words, there will be a floor that will be impossible to go below. And it won’t just be base rates that will be negotiated. Occupational terms and conditions will also be on the table for discussion.

Collective agreements will help to deal with the cowboy producers and productions. And there are a few. We are fortunate, though, that most producers try to do the best they can for those who work for them.

We are all facing an uphill battle right now, which has been made worse by the Middle East situation. Rising costs were an issue before that mess happened. And will remain so even if a way through that disaster is found.

New Zealand’s funding bodies are going to have to factor all of this in going forward. Production budgets will rise, and not just because of the cost of petrol and diesel. There are myriad other things that have gotten costlier.

In the meantime, spare a thought for your producer, line producer, and production manager who are grappling with how to make budgets work right now. Just make sure you are not the one paying for it.

 

Tui Ruwhiu
Executive Director